Information, guides, tips, news, fan art, questions and everything else Dokkan Battle related. Not only does Cooler also stack attack upon transforming, but he links quite well with his partners - giving them quite a bit of surplus damage and attack, as well - but Cooler's guaranteed crit against much of the game's content in conjunction with his already high output transformed makes this a no contest situation. well, i think that we need more units like goku, frieza and vegeta, but the 40% defense is a bit low in my opinion. As most of you know, these are the best two units in the game by far, so this should come as no surprise to most of you. Tweet | Dragon Ball Z Dokkan Battle. His versatility outside of stacking ATK&DEF is also much to be desired, and he links poorly with almost everyone. But I don't! I covered NEW TEQ Ultimate Gohan Theme. Nobody will hold that against you; Gohan utterly trivializes such titans as UI Goku, SSB Gogeta & Vegito Blue in long stages by the time he reaches them, as he'll easily cut them down by having stacked ATK in the hundreds of percents, and his defense will be so completely unsurmountable that the enemy may as well forfeit. Please select one of the cards below or search to find the card you were looking for if it is not listed. Cooler taking 10k damage from a type advantaged normal is a drop in the bucket. This article is a disambiguation page for Gohan (disambiguation) The following is a list of cards of the same character or of multiple characters with a specific affinity. Lots of comments saying he's the best TUR show up in not so many words across many outlets in the subreddit, so, I think I'd like to challenge those claims. To make matters worse, Gohan Links very poorly with Androids. Transforming Gohan Idea Fluff ive been thinking about how we dont have a proper str or int transforming unit like the teq frieza, agl goku, and phy vegeta and id love a gohan unit to be an option too. Everything Dragon Ball Z: Dokkan Battle! Why are these three things so valuable? However.. I mean, my STR Kale guards, has better links, hits harder, defends better because she stacks more and also guards, https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/596825961232859136/773298942610767942/shithan.png, The str kale vs Gohan argument, look at this photo on the calcs of Gohan with his best rotations gets outdamged and out defensed by kale and teq caulifa. Cell easily outdoes his attack per turn by well over 2mil, and has maybe 30-40k less defense on average, which, in practice, is effectively nothing - just like it is for many other units on this list. Remember to never put ssj4 goku first. Did my guy just write an entire thesis about this. This subreddit is for both the Japanese and Global version. In fact, I want the opposite - I want anyone who loves Gohan to continue to unashamedly love him because it's dope when people find joy in things. i dont think he can be compared to cooler, and other units. Which, upon transforming, Frieza has a great chance to stun any enemy he attacks for a single turn. that depends on what you think is good. Well, yeah.. That's unfortunately what you need to do to deconstruct a unit. !11!” Str Ultimate Gohan gives 170% HP and Def to Hybrid Saiyans compared to teq Gohan’s measly 130% HP. Dragon Ball Z: Dokkan Battle is a free-to-play mobile game based on the Dragon Ball franchise. 192k members in the DBZDokkanBattle community. Tl;dr - Gohan defense rly good, but he has too much of it, and would like to have much more ATK to be considered a truly excellent unit. This means they have inimitable value on long events such as IDBH & LGE, and when you combine that with a permanent guard, that makes Gohan very hard to beat in value indeed. And his stacks are actually equivalent to adding 120% DEF to his passive, so if you manage to additional super in the first turn, that's equal to a unit having a 360% defensive boost with goddamn guard. This is sort of going back to my roots in a way; I'm going to break down the strengths of a unit, compare and contrast them to what other information is out there, and we'll see where that leaves us on an overall scale to determine if a unit is as strong as many people claim. But this is far worse when you compare him to PHY Transforming Angel Frieza - Frieza is like his brother except he also lowers enemy atk, seals their super attack, has a 30% chance to dodge, and his defense is much higher; easily finding himself at 230,000 after only a single super attack. Information, guides, tips, news, fan art, questions and everything else Dokkan Battle related. not because of how well they do, but because of the things they do being different, because of their categories, their links, and so on. Not enough damage to matter, though. Bear in mind that teams nowadays, especially ones with that cooler is best on, have over 500k health. Today we're going with a slightly more adversarial topic. Even normal attacks that are type advantage against him will deal quite a bit of damage. Transforms when conditions are met, PS: ATK+120%, DEF+40%, chance of performing a critical hit +30%; raises ATK & DEF by 50% and recovers 30% HP (once only), Super Attack: Causes immense damage and greatly lowers ATK. The ability to consistently debuff your enemy - primarily through lowering ATK or Sealing Supers. His lead is infinitely better; Even after a whole year after releasing, Cooler's lead is basically incomparable to any other in the game. TEQ Cell is the better Cell but I said STR Cell is the best Android for Gohan’s team which is different. Press J to jump to the feed. At rainbow pretty much any top tier unit is amazing tbh. Access to an active skill transformation relatively early on in the fight to allow you flexibility to choose if you want to remain more defensively / supportively focused, or instead shift into a more complete "attack mode". And Gohan's defensive value only begins to win out against Super attacks at this stage, receiving about 50k or so damage on average, whereas Cooler would receive approximately double to a little over double that; Let's say around 120k or so to be perfectly safe. ;) Thank you for watching my VID!! But the problem is less that he's "hard to beat" and more that there are units that surpass him in every way; Both defensively in the short term, and offensively in the long term. TEQ Jiren - comparable high defense, stuns foes, reliable access to an extremely strong active that also stuns foes and further boosts defense while having far superior dmg, AGL Caulifla & Kale - Comparable defense with much higher defensive value due to dodging; Much superior offense, STR SSJ4 Vegeta - Much higher defense even at turn 3 or later - Much higher damage even without factoring in the strength of an active skill, which will easily obliterate most foes, INT Godku - Easily crushes Gohan defensively by having a very comparable DEF after super in conjunction with a 50% dodge chance, this unit rarely receives significant damage while blowing Gohan's output completely out of the water, PHY Beerus - The defensive difference between Gohan & Beerus is miniscule after Beerus receives an attack, whereas the offensive difference between the two is comparable to the Marianas trench, STR UI - Laughably outdoes Gohan defensively after dodging a few times - and this is again ignoring the fact that this dude has a 70% chance to dodge in the first place - and again, Gohan has weaker ATK, SSBKK & SSBE - After orb collection, this guys easily break 230k plus def - And it goes without saying Gohan's DMG is miniscule comparatively, PHY Majin Buu (Gotenks) - He has gohan's turn 3 defense turn 1, he heals 12-15% per turn, easy access to an insanely busted kit, far better leader - gohan isn't even a drop of water in the ocean compared to Buu's dmg output, AGL Gohan - Stronger offensively by a mile, very comparable defensively; Although this one is somewhat ironic as I suspect many of TEQ Gohan's strongest allies also love this unit. Doesn’t he know that teq gohan guards while the str one only has a chance?” If this is you, please refer to this image. The ability to have defensive value that isn't only reliant on stacking defense and a guard - Primarily through dodging or damage negation. Hi! I'm not doing this to bash or attack anyone; And nobody in specific will be named during this post. Transforms when conditions are met, PS: ATK+110%, DEF+50%, chance of performing a critical hit +27%. All of the units here will easily and casually have extremely similar defensive performance while completely and easily outdoing him in an attack focused setting. ive been thinking about how we dont have a proper str or int transforming unit like the teq frieza, agl goku, and phy vegeta and id love a gohan unit to be an option too. At other times, he'll feel like a very mid-tier unit because that's what he is in those contextual situations. More posts from the DBZDokkanBattle community. Press J to jump to the feed. teq transforming gohan dokkan. But Babidi/Dabura is coming with the new Battlefield on Global on Monday and that unit is bought with the battlefield gems. Rotations might be: lr ssj gohan+ teq goku exchange and bardock+namek goku. Gohan, meanwhile, with 50% defense from links and a single defense stack from his super attack, will sit at 261,112. - My answer is an overwhelming yes. Everything Dragon Ball Z: Dokkan Battle! You're right about Gohan not being the best, but you're really downplaying his turn 1 defense. I mean, my 1 dupe Gohan has like 200K defense with only 1 stack, while outputting a 3 mil attack stat. That is .1% more than teq ultimate gohan, making str ultimate gohan far superior. First of all; there are two or three core mechanics Gohan lacks that I think you have trouble calling any unit #1 or absolutely top tier if they lack. Ok let's say you bring gohan and cooler in category esbr, you have both of them at 55% because you are not a Swiss bank. Thanks to u/kariru2, u/LR_AlternativeForce, & u/wipiccioni, I was able to create a great list of defensive and offensive comparisons to hold Gohan accountable to. i hear he’s op like the teq transforming gohan,is this true? he would transform every turn like the other ones do, and with the 4 turns of super attacks he (hopefully) gets, potentially more with additionals, his defense at the end would be around 160%+, this unit isnt made to be a tank, more of a glass cannon kind of unit. Cooler, linked with phy cooler on a wicked bloodline team (future esbr probably) has a defence of 124,657. Ummm... no. Goku family:lr ssj4 goku, lr ssj gohan, lr gobros, namek goku str, agl bardock, teq goku exchange (eza). he's more of a defense orientated unit who can still do very good damage of course. ESBR is currently, in my opinion, the only 'hard' content in the game - LGE / IDBH has been powercrept to hell. Part 1: Stacking isn't as busted as many seem to think. I do think people are giving Gohan WAY too much credit. AGL Baby, STR SV, AGL SSJ4 Goku - But let's make a poignant statement very quickly. Meaning from that same turn 3 benchmark, Frieza blows Gohan completely out of the water both offensively AND defensively. The list REALLY could go on for quite a while. Meaning no matter who hits him, it's nothing. and is the new LR babadi/buu a baba shop LR?The new LR is a Prime Battle farmable. TEQ Transforming Ultimate Gohan Boss Fight! not only would I be lying - I like the unit - but I can't give a good point of comparison as to whether or not he really is as good as people claim. It's really very simple; The end result is that both of them will tank against any received normal attack with no effort; In category ESBR, Cooler's 187k defense isn't really going to be as impressive as you chalk it up to be. We'll first talk about the unit Gohan is most oft compared to, seemingly - STR Cooler. Whenever people continually claim he's the best in the game, you need to compare him against the best in the game; As you can't be the best TUR in the game when the actual existing best TUR already surpasses many LRs. Well, it's precisely because there are many units that contain at least two of these benefits, and in some scenarios, all three. I also have him with 0 dupes, so maybe that matters. First of all, STR Cooler is hands down a better unit in every way compared to Gohan. Posted In Uncategorized | No comments . Later! he would be a decent heavy hitter with his crits, ideally kept out of the main line of fire. Thanks so much for reading if you reached this point naturally! This subreddit is for both the Japanese and Global version … As kariru said, guard is nearly equivalent to a 55% damage reduction, so from a 300k sa, cooler would take 176k and gohan literally 0 damage, that's a pretty big point in gohan's favour I think, doesn't matter if you hit harder, it only matters if you actually survive. Some might consider it unfair to compare Gohan to units like LRs.. Gohan suffers from two issues when we look at his attack per turn objectively. This subreddit is for both the Japanese and Global version. I've ALREADY made a hit piece on INT LR Cell in the past explaining that his defensive value is insignificant compared to his offensive value.. .. THIS TIME IS GOHAN’S Number 58! Keep you waiting. Also honestly his damage has never even been higher than the pre-transformation version, if at all. I'll see you fellas for the INT Kid buu eza! He simply has links that are too inconsistent on average to generate much ATK value for himself or his allies. This is a free tool that helps you find the best linking partner for any … By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Yeah the fact he starts by saying Cooler is the best and then works his way back, discounting what Gohan does best without accounting for guard and by comparing him to a bunch of LRs who don't guard is... pretty sus. Cookies help us deliver our Services. This is part of a phenomenon I refer to as 'Surplus defense'. "Bond of Master and Disciple" or "Hybrid Saiyans" Category Ki +3, HP & ATK +170% and DEF +130%: Explosive Dance: Raises ATK and causes immense damage to enemy: Rage Against Androids: ATK +100%; reduces damage received by 58%; Ki +1 and ATK & DEF +30% per "Bond of Master and Disciple" Category ally attacking in the same turn; launches an additional Super Attack when there is an … “B-b-but teq ultimate gohan leads hybrid saiyan too you freaking idiot!! So the issue is basically thus; Gohan's defensive value when you discount being a stacker for long events isn't that impressive when you consider the fact that his offensive value is EXTREMELY poor for his weight class. and , he will transform every turn ? I mean you make good points, the only thing is that Gohan’s stack is 50% per turn so it’s not really a slow starter imo. You don’t need him to transform to be good in hard hitting modes like ESRB, his base form is good enough. If people rate gohan so highly, why don't the rate str kale higher when she is better at almost everything? So, we're going to make a bulleted list that goes through fast facts of units that either offensively surpass Gohan, defensively surpass him, or do both. There's nothing wrong with loving Gohan and him being your favorite unit. But there are other units who AREN'T space lizards with daddy issues. And you forget that Gohan also has guard against every typing, he doesn't have type disadvantage when it comes to defense. Those events have been clearable entirely F2P for months, and every major banner unit since that point has hardly been weak. So while I appreciate Gohan's value in an IDBH/LGE setting.. His short term defensive value is very much not very impressive. After the first Int Future Gohan transforms, the two share nigh identical Link Sets, resulting in +35% Attack and over 4 Ki distributed to each of them. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Transforms when conditions are met, PS: ATK+100%, DEF+60%, chance of performing a critical hit +24%. The only downside to this team is the amount of STR units in it, but you could fix that by changing your friend or lead with Super Vegito if need be. Everything Dragon Ball Z: Dokkan Battle! But in this case, Gohan is actually WORSE than cell offensively. Not only are his links generally poor for generating ATK link value, but no single partner in the game exists that activates more than 4 of his links simultaneously that has any worth being run on a main rotation; And it makes matters even worse that if you DO reach his 5 turn transformation, He'll regularly completely ruin the partner you run with him.. As his links almost completely change. But let's talk about defensive facts; Cooler on turn 3 facing anyone who's a Pure Saiyan or Hybrid sayian - something he has well over half the game to face - will output him with no support @ 187,000 defense. By making use of the new TEQ Gohan and the Vegito pairs, this team is well-rounded and ready to take on long and short events with minimal effort. In todays standards this guy would be pretty weak. Also can’t discount the fact that he’s one of the best units without dupes. So Gohan's Defense is Higher; But what does this mean, practically? In terms of short-term defense and offense, Gohan simply doesn't 'stack' up to the competition particularly well. Berkeley Electronic Press Selected Works. However if there's even a single AGL enemy, you have to hide Cooler from them. This is all BEFORE transforming.. so my take on that is as follows (also i am not the most creative when it comes to names for characters), LS: Hybrid Saiyans Category Ki+2, HP, ATK, DEF+120% or Super Class Ki+2, HP, ATK, DEF+80%, PS: ATK & DEF +60%, chance of performing a critical hit +15%, Super Attack: Raises DEF and causes supreme damage to enemy, TUR Great Saiyaman (same transform conditions as the goku, vegeta, and frieza, LS: Hybrid Saiyans Category Ki+3, HP, ATK, DEF +150% or Super Class Ki+3, HP, ATK, DEF +100%, PS: ATK & DEF+80%, chance of performing a critical hit +18%. I couldn't have made this post without them. But for a unit to be considered a 'Best' unit, they have to have this sort of consistent power across ALL stages of the game. My personal descriptor for Gohan is that he's a very middle of the road unit; In some events, you will be utterly shocked by his performance, and be astonished they released a card this busted. Transforms when conditions are met, PS: ATK+90%, DEF+70%, chance of performing a critical hit +21%. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Which is his second issue. I do not intend to change your mind on that front! itd also keep him around the level of the other 5 stage transformation units, More posts from the DBZDokkanBattle community. Firstly, let me make something very clear; Any unit that can infinitely greatly raise ATK & DEF on every single super attack is hardly a bad unit. That’s crazy lol. This work took bit time. Transforming Gohan is very hard since the only Team you can reliably use Android #16 together with Gohan in is Androids/Cell Saga, and you’ll have to wait at least 5 turns if you’re using other Android Cards like Cell. So only a 65k difference, that is if you don't consider guard. It's just that whenever you consider the fact that Gohan is basically generating surplus defensive value - being far too tanky where the need for such a thing is basically entirely unnecessary almost immediately after he begins to stack his defense - and lacks a lot of the offensive value that'd go into making him TRULY shine, his problems begin to become glaring. Many units that have a focus on access to quick and easy defensive and offensive prowess far outpace him in the short term, which makes things complicated for him, especially when many of these units do exceptionally well on long events, as well. There are a couple of reasons for this, but for now.. Let's talk about the defensive abilities Gohan DOESN'T have, that are basically invaluable for things such as ESBR - which, in my opinion, is hands down the most difficult content. Gohan has a defence, after his first super attack of 189,842 linked with future gohan int on an hybrid saiyans esbr. Five turns until you can finally reach the apex of your strength is pretty problematic - Many units are doing it in only three turns, and in Frieza, Beerus, and many LR's cases - they just do it from the first turn with no worry. I'm simply deconstructing the notion that Gohan is the best in the game, as it's harmful - from my viewpoint - to perpetuate a stereotype that simply isn't true. Cooler easily doubles Gohan's offensive value in a matter of turns, crushing enemies into dust where Gohan would ping them for a sizable chunk of HP in contrast. Gohan takes a LONG time to get going. Gohan is NOT bad, and anyone who tries to frame him as such is frankly on some bullshit. It doesn't matter if you can output 5 million damage a turn if you take 350K from a Super. Hey look at Phy VB, in comparison Cooler is poor because who needs support buffs, have you seen this counter damage? - Over in a Flash is only after transforming, he has Prepared for Battle before - Switches type from Super to Extreme when transforming, so can only be run by using a full TEQ Lead like Gotenks: A4: Whirlwind Strike Super Saiyan 2 Goku - Immense modifier, uncommon on non-DFE units and raises ATK & DEF for 1 turn too (SA) - Gives all allies Ki +3 He wrote an entire thesis just to be wrong in the end. Simply put, when compared to the two top-tier MMC options, Gohan falters. This took a lot of effort and research to compile, and I could not have done it alone. so my take on that is as follows (also i am not the most creative when it comes to names for characters) If I only made a short post saying "I do not like gohan I think he is bad and stinky!!" Either way, whether you disagree with me and want to hit me over the head with a large, flat rock - please do not do that - or loved and agreed with all my points.. One of my least favorite DFE units is "INT LR Cell", who, because of his low overall damage, poor synergistic links, and over-reliance on defense to generate value, is overly lauded as a 'difficult mode killer'. It sucks because he's still a great unit but they totally butchered the concept of a transforming SS2 Gohan, my making it feel like there's almost 0 incentive to actually transform him. Str ultimate gohan has a 25% chance to guard which is only 75% less than 100% so if you round up, str ultimate gohan guards 100.1% of the time. It's really very simple; The end result is that both of them will tank against any received normal attack with no effort; And Gohan's defensive value only begins to win out against Super attacks at this stage, receiving about 50k or so damage on average, whereas Cooler would receive approximately double to a little over double that; Let's say around 120k or so to be perfectly safe. He isn't a good leader, or nearly a good as support but Gohan is just a better tank, which is what you need for ESBR. This one’s for you Ultimate Gohan fans. Make sure to have all the def stackers on turn and fast transform namek goku. Literally the only thing gohan has on her is the leader skill. But let's actually talk about it before I pump anyone up too much about if stacking is good or bad. Gohan would take around 50k, but Cooler would take no less than 200k from a type neutral super, and that's being generous. Transformation Boost + Terrifying Conquerors just covers such a gigantic spread of units that it's like Cooler cheated and grabbed the best leader skill first. Thus it's obvious that Cooler is mid /s. Part 2: Stacking defense, but at what cost? We're going to attack Gohan's most illustrious aspect first, as without this leg to stand on, I think he instantly becomes a far weaker unit in many ways. So, the question immediately becomes 'Is Cooler's offensive output stronger than Gohan's defensive edge?' Cooler doesn't even counter at all, and by the way here are a bunch of LRs who do more damage than Cooler. 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